Re: More math and open source

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From: Dave Winer (
Date: Wed Sep 20 2000 - 08:05:55 PDT

You may be surprised to hear that I agree with this.

However, there's a cash-cow-milking mentality that says that open source is
a political movement with greater significance, and I want to explode that
myth, as you clearly do too.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Fielding, Roy" <>
To: "'Dave Winer'" <>; <>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: More math and open source

> Dave, you are making the same mistake that OSI made -- the term
> open source consists of two common words with an already established
> meaning that has very little to do with the "Open Source" definition
> proposed by the OSI board (a.k.a., the Debian Free Software Guidelines).
> Categorizing open source developers with the Open Source Definition
> and the OSI group is just lame. The OSI and the OSD are completely
> irrelevant to my work. I have been doing this stuff far longer than
> they have existed. What they say and do has no relevance whatsoever
> to the power of open source for collaborative development of software.
> So, making proclamations on open source based only on what the OSI
> says or claims about "Open Source" is like comparing the quality
> of engineering at Microsoft versus engineering at IBM based on what
> their respective marketing departments say at a sales meeting.
> ....Roy

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