From: Dan Brickley (Daniel.Brickley@bristol.ac.uk)
Date: Wed Sep 13 2000 - 09:39:17 PDT
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Dave Winer wrote:
> Do you know for a fact that "It wasn't the right place to go into the
> politics, personalities, and history."
Yes; the roundtable was for technical developers, interested in the
architectural principles and concerns that underpinned our 1.0
proposal.
> If so, please explain why.
>
> Also note that despite claims that "RSS 1.0" is a proposal, no such
> disclaimer appears on the ad.
The advert simply asks "Why RSS 1.0?", which is pretty neutral. That
said, personally I would have preferred it if the word proposal had
been used more on neighbouring pages, but you'll have to talk to my
sinister puppetmasters at O'Reilly about all that.
--danbri
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Brickley" <Daniel.Brickley@bristol.ac.uk>
> To: "FoRK" <FoRK@xent.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:13 AM
> Subject: Re: An example
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Dave Winer wrote:
> >
> > > The link took you to a page where the RSS 1.0 developers talked about
> their
> > > creation, no alternate views, no attempt to give their readers the other
> > > side of the story. Seems pretty corporate to me. Dave
> >
> > Yeah, you get to hear my words voiced by Rael (I participated by IRC due
> > to primitive British phone technology flaking out), which is kind of the
> > opposite relationship I usually have to my O'Reilly puppetmasters... ;-)
> >
> > We tried to put a positive case for the design decisions taken in the
> > 1.0 proposal. It wasn't the right place to go into the politics,
> > personalities, and history. I suspect FoRK may be such a place (Rohit,
> > kick us off if you'd rather we had this thread elsewhere).
> >
> > For the curious and the MP3 enabled, the roundtable discussion is all
> > online still at...
> >
> > http://oreilly.linux.com/linux/rt/08252000/
> > http://oreilly.linux.com/pub/a/linux/2000/08/25/rt.html
> > [[[
> > O'Reilly Network Weekly
> > Open Source Roundtable
> > Sponsored by IBM developerWorks
> > 08/25/2000
> > Listen to this discussion (21:45 mins, 10.2 MB):
> > ]]]
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Willem Broekema" <willem@imeme.net>
> > > To: "Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:38 AM
> > > Subject: Re: An example
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dave Winer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's an example of O'Reilly's corporate involvement in RSS 1.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy Oram's personal page on their website.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.scripting.com/images/oreillAdvertisingRss10AndyO.gif
> > > > >
> > > > > Note the ad for RSS 1.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > I cannot agree with your statement that this banner indicated
> corporate
> > > > involvement. The "Open Source Roundtable" is organized by O'Reilly,
> but
> > > > it is not about things by O'Reilly. I remember them having two Mozilla
> > > > people short time ago.
> > > >
> > > > They promote their books in informative tech articles too...
> > > >
> > > > - Willem
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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