Re: An example

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From: Dave Winer (dave@userland.com)
Date: Wed Sep 13 2000 - 09:17:00 PDT

Do you know for a fact that "It wasn't the right place to go into the
politics, personalities, and history."

If so, please explain why.

Also note that despite claims that "RSS 1.0" is a proposal, no such
disclaimer appears on the ad.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Brickley" <Daniel.Brickley@bristol.ac.uk>
To: "FoRK" <FoRK@xent.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: An example

>
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Dave Winer wrote:
>
> > The link took you to a page where the RSS 1.0 developers talked about
their
> > creation, no alternate views, no attempt to give their readers the other
> > side of the story. Seems pretty corporate to me. Dave
>
> Yeah, you get to hear my words voiced by Rael (I participated by IRC due
> to primitive British phone technology flaking out), which is kind of the
> opposite relationship I usually have to my O'Reilly puppetmasters... ;-)
>
> We tried to put a positive case for the design decisions taken in the
> 1.0 proposal. It wasn't the right place to go into the politics,
> personalities, and history. I suspect FoRK may be such a place (Rohit,
> kick us off if you'd rather we had this thread elsewhere).
>
> For the curious and the MP3 enabled, the roundtable discussion is all
> online still at...
>
> http://oreilly.linux.com/linux/rt/08252000/
> http://oreilly.linux.com/pub/a/linux/2000/08/25/rt.html
> [[[
> O'Reilly Network Weekly
> Open Source Roundtable
> Sponsored by IBM developerWorks
> 08/25/2000
> Listen to this discussion (21:45 mins, 10.2 MB):
> ]]]
>
> Dan
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Willem Broekema" <willem@imeme.net>
> > To: "Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: An example
> >
> >
> > > Dave Winer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here's an example of O'Reilly's corporate involvement in RSS 1.0.
> > > >
> > > > Andy Oram's personal page on their website.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.scripting.com/images/oreillAdvertisingRss10AndyO.gif
> > > >
> > > > Note the ad for RSS 1.0.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > >
> > > I cannot agree with your statement that this banner indicated
corporate
> > > involvement. The "Open Source Roundtable" is organized by O'Reilly,
but
> > > it is not about things by O'Reilly. I remember them having two Mozilla
> > > people short time ago.
> > >
> > > They promote their books in informative tech articles too...
> > >
> > > - Willem
> >
> >
>

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