Rohit
PS. How many times have some of you gotten this AOP notice? This is at
least the 6th copy today for me...
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> From: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd <dee@cybercash.com>
> To: dcsb@ai.mit.edu
> Cc: listmom-talk@skyweyr.com
> Subject: Re: Urgent! AOP Alert 97:03 (fwd)
> Date: Thursday, January 16, 1997 2:17 PM
>
> For years those in the Asia/Pacific and European areas to whom IP
addresses
> have been allocated have had to pay the administrative costs of their
> regional NICs (APNIC and RIPE) including IP address administration. The
US
> and rest of the world got a free ride courtesy of the US government.
With
> current protocols, IP address assignment must be done right or routing
will
> break down. At a first approximation, this proposal is simply to set up a
> non-profit organization to do this job for North American on a break even
> basis. The initial proposed fees are based on what APNIC and RIPE
charge.
> Also, in most cases, ISP will be getting large blocks from ARIN and
reselling
> parts thereof for much less than ARIN's proposed charges for small
> blocks, since the charges are non-linear with block size.
>
> There *are* problems with the proposal, as I have indicated in my posts
to
> the IETF list. The goverance of the proposed ARIN, with a ruling board
of
> Trustees appointed by NSI that perpetuates itself, is clearly
unacceptable.
> The initial fees, based on the APNIC and RIPE experience, may be high for
> North America. Etc.
>
> So while there are specifics of this proposal it is quite reasonable to
> attack, everyone should expect that in the not to distant future there
will
> be charges to support these administrative costs of North American IP
address
> administration that were previously covered by the US government.
>
> (If you think that using fewer IP addresses and tunneling or using NAT
boxes
> or whatever is some sort of triumphant protest, you are confused.
> Conservation of IPv4 numbers is a goodness and has thus far been
encouraged
> by supplying greater back pressure by requiring better documentation of
need,
> etc. If instituting charges causes further conservation, that's great.)
>
> Donald
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Robert Hettinga wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:22:18 -0500
> > From: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
> > To: dcsb@ai.mit.edu
> > Subject: Urgent! AOP Alert 97:03 (fwd)
> >
> >
> > --- begin forwarded text
> >
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:56:12 -0700 (MST)
> > From: Randy Cassingham <arcie@netcom.com>
> > Subject: Urgent! AOP Alert 97:03 (fwd)
> > To: listmom-talk@skyweyr.com
> > Mime-Version: 1.0
> > Precedence: Bulk
> > Reply-To: listmom-talk@skyweyr.com
> >
> > Passing this on -- as high-volume customers, list owners would surely
be
> > among the first groups of customers to suffer under this ill-formed
> > proposal.
> >
> > / Randy Cassingham * Author, "This is True" * arcie@netcom.com \
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> > \ or check out <http://www.freecom.com/> * I promise you'll like it /
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> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:14:44 -0500
> > From: "aop@cris.com" <aop@cris.com>
> > To: AOP Members <aop@cris.com>
> > Subject: Urgent! AOP Alert 97:03
> >
> > =============================================================
> > AOP Alert Wednesday, January 15, 1997
> > =============================================================
> >
> > The following is a legislative alert from the Association of
> > Online Professionals, the leading association of Internet
> > Service Providers and other professionals who manage online
> > services.
> >
> > Please give it the widest possible distribution:
> >
> > =============================================================
> > AOP Opposes Network Solutions ARIN Proposal
> > =============================================================
> >
> > This week, Network Solutions, Inc. proposed the formation of a
> > new entity that would charge ISPs from $2,500 to $20,000 per year for
> > registration of Internet IP addresses. This fee would be in addition
> > to fees already charged for registration of domain names.
> >
> > Under the proposal, an American Registry for Internet Numbers would be
> > created as a non-profit entity to collect the fees and assign the
> > addresses. The new entity would replace the government- sponsored
> > InterNIC IP group. Companies who wish to participate in policy-making
> > as members of the group would pay an additional $1,000 per year.
> >
> > Information regarding the proposal may be found at
> > http://www.arin.net.
> >
> > The Association of Online Professionals has serious concerns about the
> > proposal, and urges all North American Internet service providers and
> > their subscribers to oppose the measure until these concerns are
> > addressed:
> >
> > ** There is no indication in the proposal as to why the fees are
> > needed.
> >
> > ** The proposed non-profit has no published goals, mission or other
> > information beyond its structure and fees.
> >
> > ** The fee structure will cost the industry millions of dollars,
> > yet there is no information as to how the money will be spent or
> > how it will benefit the Internet.
> >
> > ** The assertions that the fees would not affect subscribers are
> > incorrect, as these fees would have to be passed on to consumers.
> >
> > ** The assertions that ISPs can afford the fees as a cost of
> > doing business reflects a poor understanding of the current
> > economics of Internet access services. The proposed fee structure
> > would have a devastating effect on small ISPs as well as non-
> > profit, hobbyist and public access providers.
> >
> > ** It is unclear under what authority Network Solutions would impose
> > the fees. The Internet exists as a public resource, and as such
> > should not be subjected to the arbitrary control of any small
> > group of individuals or entities.
> >
> > AOP has generally supported efforts to bring organization and
> > structure to the Internet, including the imposition of fees to cover
> > the cost of assigning and maintaining domain names.
> >
> > However, AOP cannot support the current proposal until more
> > information is provided and a meaningful dialogue established to
> > ensure that the proposal is more than an attempt to wrest control of
> > the Internet for a select group of self-proclaimed authorities.
> >
> > Please do the following immediately:
> >
> > 1) Contact InterNIC with a request that the proposal not be
> > implemented.
> > Send the comments to naipr@internic.net.
> >
> > 2) Urge your subscribers and business associates to reject the
> > proposal.
> >
> >
> > AOP will make every effort to obtain answers to the questions raised,
> > and will strive for meaningful conversations with Network Solutions on
> > these issues. If you have comments that would help us build a
> > consensus for these discussions, please direct them to exec@aop.org.
> >
> > ======================================================================
> > Dave McClure (703) 924-9692 (703) 924-9594 Fax
> > Executive Director (703) 264-1750 BBS Telnet aop.org
> > Assn of Online Professionals http://www.aop.org info@aop.org
> > ======================================================================
> >
> > --- end forwarded text
> >
> >
> >
> > -----------------
> > Robert Hettinga (rah@shipwright.com), Philodox,
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> >
> >
> >
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