From: cdale@silly.techmonkeys.net
Date: Thu Sep 28 2000 - 23:54:24 PDT
Shut up. I'm Cindy. Subscribe me. Don't you have a stats page
somewhere? Forward this.
C
"A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity."
-- Robert Frost
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Adam Rifkin wrote:
> Jacob, in subscribing, asks:
> > I wonder if this is a list bot or does somebody actually read this...
>
> I assure you, someone actually reads it. And every once and a while we
> actually update the mailing list and subscribe people.
>
> We've lost several people this month (too much email I spose) and gained
> several people this month. Someone actually subscribed and unsubscribed
> within an hour of being added.
>
> So our ranks are hovering around 190-or-so subscribed to FoRK (and, no
> kidding, 3% of them currently work for KnowNow). By my estimates, FoRK
> has more or less doubled in size each year since it started two weeks
> after Microsoft's Pearl-Harbor-Day announcement in 1995. Power of the
> Internet, baby. I do wonder what a FoRKlist of 380 people would look
> like, but then again, when FoRK was hovering around 95 people, I
> wondered what a FoRKlist of 190 people would look like...
>
> Anyway, feel free to forward stuff about yourselves to the list. Allow
> me the honor of forwarding Derek's request.
>
> > From: Derek Robinson <nnvsnu@yahoo.com>
> > To: fork-request@xent.com
> > Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:29:42 +0100
> > Subject: sign me up (thank-you)
> > Organization: Standard Brains
> > Reply-To: Derek Robinson <drdee@bigfoot.com>
> >
> > Rohit, Adam, whoever's doing the honours --
> >
> > I'm still not sure I really want to get *all* that stuff in my mailbox, but
> > I just can't help myself ...
> >
> > I'm a Canadian art-computer-philosophy kind of guy living in Stockholm for
> > the last year, working part-time as possibly the world's least-ept Linux
> > sys-admin at the university bioinformatics dept (and BTW looking for offers
> > elsewhere). For the last several months I've been browser-hacking in my
> > spare time, the fruits of which have finally reached, um, fruition in a
> > tiny (< 2K) in-situ WYSIWYG web editor (written in JScript for IE5). Check
> > it out, I think you'll like it --
> >
> > http://standardbrains.editthispage.com
> >
> > (From Adam's recent post: "I believe that Web developers are the most
> > nimble group of developers the world has ever seen. Whenever they need
> > something that doesn't exist, they find and extend something that's already
> > out there, and/or whip up scripts on-the-fly to do new and often amazing
> > things.")
> >
> > Some early comments:
> >
> > John Udell: "Brilliant! Derek, this is the coolest thing I've seen lately."
> >
> > Rael Dornfest: "INCREDIBLE!"
> >
> > Dave Winer: (rendered momentarily speechless)
> >
> > Phil Harris: "In browser editing is so cool it's almost a popsickle ...
> > we're wetting our pants!"
> >
> > Brendan Eich: "... have you tried any of this in Mozilla recently?"
> >
> > Jerry Spicklemire (Zope.org list): "Close your eyes ... and pretend that
> > Zope can do this today! This is where we're headed with DAV, XML / DOM,
> > Zope Studio, etc. If you can get to a desktop with this installed, it is
> > such a trip to swipe some content, and edit in place, without a #%&@ text
> > box! So this is what Tim Berners-Lee had in mind with that funny little put
> > method ..."
> >
> > Jason Cunliffe (ditto): "No kidding. I heard him speak in London a few
> > years ago. A major point he made then was that one of the key features of
> > the first system he built using his NeXT cube was integrated editing. He
> > mentioned how easy this was thanks the object builder stuff on NeXT. Went
> > on to say how ironic the rapid success of www had been for him and his
> > colleagues, as they watched the web take off - but with only 50% of the
> > idea. Browse-only passive TV mode no user live edit. Passive
> > implementations instead of the inter-active ones crucial to the first idea
> > for a balanced remote collaboration system. He noted how people were
> > obviously working hard to have all kinds of editing, but still in
> > non-integrated fashion ... lots of html editing but always a separated
> > process with separated update mechanisms."
> >
> > So am I in?
> >
> > D.
>
> You're in. :)
>
> ----
> Adam@KnowNow.Com
>
> The industry has now begun to discuss a new Bluetooth standard,
> generation 2, enabling speeds up to 10 megabit per second: This capacity
> will open up the gates for real-time video transmission. This means that
> the Bluetooth technology can be used in local residential networks or in
> business networks for telephony, Internet and TV.
> -- http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/articles/sep2000/bluetoothvideo.html
>
> Unfortunately, we have found that Gnutella is not as scalable as the
> centralized Napster network. Translation: the more users, the less
> efficient. In recent weeks, doing a search or query with the program
> yielded little or no results. And it often timed out when it looked for
> files.
> -- http://music.zdnet.com/features/highnote/092100_gnutella_dead.html
>
> Join New York Times fashion critic Cathy Horyn in looking back at
> photographs from the New York shows as she talks about trends,
> disappointments and her favorite looks. She remarks, "Overall, the mood
> for spring is girlish, with a slightly tough edge. Most designers moved
> away from the lady-like looks they showed for fall. . . . Expect a
> return of shorter skirts, more hot pants and more midriffs showing."
> -- http://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/28/living/28NYRE.html
>
>
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