RE: [Wash Post] The WAP backlash continues...

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From: Damien Morton (Morton@dennisinter.com)
Date: Mon Sep 18 2000 - 14:09:14 PDT


You might want to take a look at
http://www.research.ibm.com/people/i/iyengar/infocom2000.ps

which describes something akin to the transformational architecture you
describe.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbfar@ebuilt.com [mailto:rbfar@ebuilt.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 4:38 PM
> To: S. Mike Dierken; fork@xent.com
> Cc: rrichards@ebuilt.net
> Subject: Re: [Wash Post] The WAP backlash continues...
>
>
> I fully agree. I think the key word you use here is "canonical".
>
> That is the word we are looking at as well.
>
> If you don't mind, I'll forward you a copy of the White Paper
> once it's
> finished and you can comment on it. I am certain that it has
> many flaws,
> but it will be a beginning.
>
> Thanks for the link and I'll look at the thread.
>
> R
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S. Mike Dierken" <mike@knownow.com>
> To: <fork@xent.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:54 AM
> Subject: FW: [Wash Post] The WAP backlash continues...
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gavin Thomas Nicol [mailto:gtn@ebt.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:54 AM
> > > To: fork@xent.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Wash Post] The WAP backlash continues...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > While I agree, we have been (at eBuilt) looking at "families"
> > > of devices.
> > > > It seems like you can stream line the XSL creation process by
> > > > assigning one XSL to a family of devices.
> > >
> > > You can do better than that too. Essentially, a document produced
> > > by a stylesheet applied to an XML document is the same as a
> > > transformation function applied to the document. If you regard
> > > the headers, devices etc. as part of the "environment" in which
> > > the function is applied, a methodology for parameterizing
> > > stylesheets is pretty obvious.
> > >
> > This is a key insight - to regard the headers, devices,
> etc. as part of
> the
> > 'environment' of the processor.
> > It lets you do lots of things with simple tools. It makes
> you consider
> most
> > systems for generating dynamic web content (Apache mods, PHP, ASP,
> servlets,
> > etc.) as transformation systems.
> >
> > In the past I had suggested coming up with a canonical XML
> DTD for the
> data
> > in HTTP Request and Response objects. This would let XML processing
> engines
> > play with the full HTTP information.
> >
> > Here is a pointer to a message talking about this a little.
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2000Mar/0063.html
> >
> > Mike
>


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