From: rbfar@ebuilt.com
Date: Fri Sep 15 2000 - 17:24:20 PDT
Agreed.... Though, if you create XML for content, I think your job is much
easier since creation of XSL's is a lot less redundant than creation of WML
from scratch..
R
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Mike Dierken" <mike@knownow.com>
To: <rbfar@ebuilt.com>; <fork@xent.com>; "B.K. DeLong" <bkdelong@pobox.com>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Wash Post] The WAP backlash continues...
> I think the 'WAP backlash' is a mix of the 'WAP as network access
mechanism'
> as well as 'WML as display language'.
>
> I think that XML as the base content language with templates that generate
> UI/display will be more and more widespread - but that doesn't require
> WAP-as-network-protocol.
>
>
> Mike
> PS
> I also think that XSLT is difficult for complex transformations that are
> common when generating rich/complex HTML pages - a procedural language is
> more suited. The XSLT that people write to do the complex transformations
is
> turning into procedural code - if/then/else, switch/case, sub-functions,
> etc. It would make more sense just to use a scripting language for this.
I
> think the ASP/JSP model will continue to be popular, and will grow if
> somebody adds a template engine that selects different template files
based
> on the device (user-agent).
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rbfar@ebuilt.com [mailto:rbfar@ebuilt.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:32 AM
> > To: fork@xent.com; B.K. DeLong
> > Subject: Re: [Wash Post] The WAP backlash continues...
> >
> >
> > But don't you think that content will get pushed into XML and HTML will
be
> > generated from XML?
> >
> > That way, all you need to do is create content in XML and build
> > XSL's on the
> > top of it to spit out HTML, WML, or whatever.... (I know this is really
> > obvious and I'm probably missing something...)
> >
> > R
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "B.K. DeLong" <bkdelong@pobox.com>
> > To: <fork@xent.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Wash Post] The WAP backlash continues...
> >
> >
> > > At 07:34 AM 9/15/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >What was once a radical position is now conventional wisdom.
> > BTW, Rohit
> > > >seems to love his new Nokia 8260. Why the heck did he put up with
that
> > > >piece of junk Nextel for so long? Oh yeah, they lock you into a
number
> > > >and you're stuck with it unless you're willing to endure the pain of
a
> > > >migration. Rohit's new cell number FYI is 206-465-4936.
> > Don't call him
> > > >right now, though, he's sleeping after a long night of debugging...
:)
> > >
> > > I still remember attending an XML DevCon and being a "plant" in the
> > > audience asking questions like "What do you think about Web developers
> > > having to author pages in HTML (XHTML) and then another in WML?" or
> > "Wasn't
> > > WAP a business model" and my favorite "Do you see WAP being merged
into
> > > HTTP and WML becoming an XHTML extension?" I think I asked some of the
> > same
> > > questions at WWW9 as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > B.K. DeLong
> > > Research Lead
> > > ZOT Group
> > >
> > > 617.542.5335 ext. 204
> > > bkdelong@zotgroup.com
> > > http://www.zotgroup.com
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