list weirdness

Kragen Sitaker (kragen@pobox.com)
Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:45:53 -0500 (EST)


So Geege's post finally posted. Here are the Received headers and
related stuff:

Received: from growl.pobox.com (growl.pobox.com [208.210.124.27])
by april.dnaco.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09833
for <kragen@dnaco.net>; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:11:54 -0500 (EST)
Received: from XeNT.ics.uci.edu (xent.ics.uci.edu [128.195.21.213])
by growl.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
id 9CCA05D40; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:11:53 -0500 (EST)
Received: from kragen.dnaco.net (kragen.dnaco.net [207.238.206.70])
by XeNT.ics.uci.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA00686
for <FoRK@xent.ics.uci.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:11:28 -0800 (PST)
Received: (qmail 11536 invoked by alias); 4 Dec 1999 16:10:36 -0000
Delivered-To: fork@kragen.dnaco.net
Received: (qmail 11532 invoked from network); 4 Dec 1999 16:10:34 -0000
Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8)
by kragen.dnaco.net with SMTP; 4 Dec 1999 16:10:34 -0000
Received: from Grlygrl201@aol.com
by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id t.0.d36fc00c (4558)
for <fork@kragen.dnaco.net>; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:10:02 -0500 (EST)

OK, so from this we see that she sent it Saturday morning (morning in
AOL's timezone, anyway); it was received at my machine in about thirty
seconds, and in two more seconds had been queued for sending to FoRK;
and actually got sent to FoRK at 17:11:28 UTC today. It arrived in my
mailbox within 30 seconds thereafter.

My guess is that for the intervening 49 hours, my machine had been
trying to send it to FoRK without any luck.

kragen.dnaco.net was online -- and, as far as I know, working fine --
during this time. I will check its syslog when I get home to see what
qmail has to say about its attempts to send to xent.ics.uci.edu.

Keith Dawson's delayed post tells a similar story:

Received: from growl.pobox.com (growl.pobox.com [208.210.124.27])
by april.dnaco.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07003
for <kragen@dnaco.net>; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:16:35 -0500 (EST)
Received: from XeNT.ics.uci.edu (xent.ics.uci.edu [128.195.21.213])
by growl.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
id 6676083A0; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:16:35 -0500 (EST)
Received: from darwin (darwin.worldway.net [216.34.89.18])
by XeNT.ics.uci.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00530
for <fork@xent.ics.uci.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:10:34 -0800 (PST)
Received: from europe.std.com ([199.172.62.20])
by darwin with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #3)
id 11uHqD-0001lH-00
for FoRK@xent.com; Sat, 04 Dec 1999 16:15:21 +0000
Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5])
by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21466;
Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:15:20 -0500 (EST)
Received: (from dawson@localhost)
by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05540;
Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:14:37 -0500 (EST)

Sent Saturday, sat in darwin.worldway.net's mailqueue until just now,
and then got sent.

(These headers also do a nice job of illustrating cooperation of
different MTAs; Keith's message was handled by Sendmail 8.9.3, Exim
3.02, Sendmail 8.8.5, Postfix, and Sendmail 8.9.1 before landing in my
mailbox. Totally groovy, man. Proprietary standards can't touch
this.)

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