> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Bone [mailto:jbone@activerse.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 1998 1:39 PM
> To: Josh Cohen
> Cc: ejw@ics.uci.edu; 'FoRK@xent.ics.uci.edu'
> Subject: Re: IETF-LA
>
>
> One comment on Josh's comments. It's essential to
> distinguish between "chat" or even
> "instant messaging" and presence. RVP doesn't really have
> anything to do with chat at
> all. The instant messaging part of RVP is a pragmatic
> concession for the need for
> lowest-common-denominator interoperability. Really, presence
> and interaction are
> conceptually orthogonal. Realistically, interoperable
> clients without instant messaging
> are uninteresting. Also, there's a good argument along the
> lines of instant messaging
> being a special-case form of notification.
>
> Historically, the "call to standards" in this area originated
> at Jerry Michalski's Retreat
> '97, last August --- long before the Netscape deal. I do
> think the effort was really
> accelerated (at least on the part of some of the players)
> around the time of that deal.
>
> $0.02,
>
> jb
>
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>