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From: Joseph R. Kiniry <kiniry@cs.caltech.edu>
To: I Find Karma <adam@cs.caltech.edu>
Cc: tomwhore@interport.net; resnick@interlog.com;
orchard@pacificspirit.com; cskerr@geocities.com; sandor.spruit@let.ruu.nl
Subject: Who's on FoRK. (Removing redundancies from dist-obj-nofork@cs)
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 4:55 PM
Thx. I have removed Tom(whore), Ron, Dave, Charles, and Sandor
from the dist-obj-nofork list.
Joe
I Find Karma writes:
>
> The current list of FoRKers, in reverse order joined:
> 1.resnick@interlog.com - Ron
> 2.l.wood@surrey.ac.uk - Lloyd
> 3.shcho@halla.sec.samsung.co.kr
> 4.timBL@w3.org - Tim
> Before you mail Tim:
> If you need someone to find something for you about
some arbitrary subject (travel agents, or
> parakeets or whatever), don't ask him, but try the
Virtual Library for example.
> If you want to know how to run a server, or how to
edit HTML, check the W3C web or your local
> bookstore. He's sorry he can't answer individual
requests for help.
> If you can't access something on www.w3.org , you find
bad links from www.w3.org pages, or errors
> in the hypertext please see the webmaster's
documentation.
> 5.signa@tfs.net - Signa
> 6.sk@w3.org - Sally
> 7.jbone@activerse.com - Jeff
> 8.robert.tenback@let.ruu.nl - Robert
> 9.north@synopsys.com - Simon
> 10.dorons@corky.net - Doron
> 11.yarong@microsoft.com / ygoland@cinenet.net - Yaron
> 12.thomasre@microsoft.com - Thomas
> 13.orchard@pacificspirit.com - Dave
> 14.gil@rimon.org - Gil
> 15.michael.orr@design-intelligence.com - Michael
> 16.daniel.veillard@w3.org - Daniel
> 17.jfeise@ics.uci.edu - Joe
> 18.markk@pswtech.com - Mark
> 19.daniel.brickley@bristol.ac.uk - Dan
> 20.michele.michelotto@cern.ch - Michele
> 21.dave@shortbus.com - Dave
> 22.cskerr@geocities.com - Charles
> 23.isallam@gis.shl.com
> 24.pjsholtz@omix.com
> 25.colds@nwlink.com - Chris
> 26.ahitomi@ics.uci.edu - Art
> 27.ListSaver-of-fork@findmail.com - FindMail FoRK Archive
> 28.the_rack@mit.edu - George
> 29.peymano@ics.uci.edu - Peymon
> 30.reagle@rpcp.mit.edu - Joseph
> 31.fielding@ics.uci.edu - Roy
> 32.gbolcer@ics.uci.edu - Greg
> 33.philipd@w3.org - Philip
> 34.mdm8@cornell.edu - Mike
> 35.JRChang+@CMU.EDU - John
> 36.john.feiler@attws.com - John
> 37.SCharlesL@aol.com - Steve
> 38.dgibbons@sparky.oroad.com - Dave
> 39.jpthomas@ix.netcom.com - Jay
> 40.dxlong@aol.net - Dave
> 41.tomwhore@interport.net - tomwhore
> 42.dawson@world.std.com - Keith
> 43.jstemo@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
> 44.efreeman@ra.cs.yale.edu - Eric
> 45.hokkun.pang@fmr.com - Hokkun
> 46.clover@commwerks.com - Clover
> 47.seth@cs.wustl.edu - Seth
> 48.gerald@impressive.net - Gerald
> 49.sandor.spruit@let.ruu.nl - Sandor
> 50.howcome@w3.org - Håkon
> 51.dmz@cs.caltech.edu - Dan
> 52.gaffurr@sonnyj.btna.com - Rumman
> 53.phryday@eden.com - Bobby
> 54.tjk@teledesic.com - Todd
> 55.johnboy@hiwaay.net - John
> 56.klassa@ivc.com - John
> 57.joebar@microsoft.com - JoeB
> 58.bal-fork@martigny.ai.mit.edu - Brian
> 59.markb@iosphere.net - Mark
> 60.dugsong@umich.edu - Douglas
> 61.ejw@ics.uci.edu - Jim
> 62.rfa@initco.net - Ron
> 63.markl@teledesic.com - Mark "The Shark"
> 64.dan@teledesic.com - Dan "The Man"
> 65.frystyk@w3.org - Henrik
> 66.baisley@fndcd.fnal.gov - Wayne
> 67.magnush@microsoft.com - Magnus
> 68.rst@ai.mit.edu - Robert
> 69.posh@sirius.com - Wendy
> 70.jfdobb@clark.net - Dobbin
> 71.robert.harley@inria.fr - The Robster
> 72.gordoni@base.com - Gordon
> 73.ernest@alumni.caltech.edu - Ernie
> 74.adam@cs.caltech.edu - Adam
> 75.khare@ugcs.caltech.edu - Rohit
>
-- Joseph R. Kiniry A1 F9 C5 8C B3 43 54 20 FA 20 63 80 53 C3 6D 85 California Institute of Technology ID 78860581 ICQ 4344804 ----------
1) Adam - Heeeeeey!! Wait a minute - just cuz I drop off fork for a little R&R, I get bumped to the back of the list? What's with that - don't I get my old spot back with Mark - ie down near #59? This is unfair - I demand dignified treatment as a veteran, harumph :-)
2) So, let me get this straight - we are strictly barred from emailing timBL@w3.org directly to ask for help with our sick parakeets. But it's perfectly ok if I want to mail to fork@xent.ics.uci.org for some communal group therapy for my sick parakeet Fifi, and TBL just becomes one of the fellas who suggests cold compresses and a vacation in tropical Tahiti? Wow, I've never mingled with royalty before (does Rohit count?) I'm getting all tingly :-). [Psst - remind me someone - which is the shrimp FoRK and which is the salad FoRK.]
3) JoeK - Check carefully - I'm pretty sure that 19.daniel.brickley@bristol.ac.uk is a dist-obj crossover, and that 21.dave@shortbus.com is none other than Dave Crook dcrook@commwerks.com, also now on dist-obj. Oh, and 38.dgibbons@sparky.oroad.com should be Darren, not Dave, and is also on dist-obj if memory serves. Wasn't SteveP - Darren's buddy - also on both lists? Is he off FoRK now?
I assume that real old timers like JoeB, Mark, Adam, DMZ, and Wayne are already accounted for in the dist-obj-nofork set.
Summary: maintaining dist-obj-nofork is probably more hassle than it's worth.
Anybody got a problem with any of that? Speak now or forever hold your peace...
Ob.useless-stats: I observe that dist-obj having recently crossed 150 is precisely double FoRK at its present 75. FoRK having been around since - what? fall of 95? is about 28 months old. dist-obj started after Mark&I met Joe at OOPSLA96, making it about 16 months old.
dist-obj avg. rate of growth - 154/16 = 9.6 members/month FoRK avg. rate of growth - 75/28 = 2.7 members/month Not very accurate, since the growths have not been linear for either list (dist-obj took well over half a year to get to 30, and now gets 30 in about 2 months, I figure).
Also, this is hardly a 'my dick is longer than your dick' competition. We're actively concerned about dist-obj growing beyond the point where it can no longer serve its original purpose, as a quiet, thoughtful, reflective place.
We got so noisy in the last few days (no thanks to loudmouths like Adam and me - and Doug Lea) - that we're now dumping our garbage on FoRK's front lawn - let's see how they like it for a change :-).
Ron