From: Strata Rose Chalup (strata@virtual.net)
Date: Thu May 04 2000 - 16:52:00 PDT
After thinking about this for a moment, it seems that someone who felt
evangelical about this could make a pretty good pitch to book publishing
companies, office supply companies, etc-- include one of these little
tags with a precoded number in it with every book, a bunch with
filefolders, etc.
Figure out a scheme like ISBN's (hell, use the ISBN for books!) to
allocate mfr codespace a la MAC addresses or ISBN's, let the consumer
decide what sort of associations he/she will make with the preassigned
number.
Interface these on books to store inventory control. Have Amazon/Barnes
use them to expedite shipping, scan it off the shelf, scan it into the
order box. Check books in and out of the library. Track
patient/student folders in medical clinics/universities, especially big
multi-building campuses. Etc.
I think it'd be great, I'm just not fired up enough about it to be that
evangelist.
_Strata
Dan Brickley wrote:
>
> Excellent, just what I was after -- well, the hardware side of it
> anyway. Would rather hack the software together myself. Pricing etc not
> yet available -- hope the hardware's available separately (or from
> another supplier).
>
> This fits very well with a freeform Lifestreams-y approach to
> metadata for managing the daily infospew. When stuff happens, slap a
> unique ID and datestamp on electronic entities and a little sticky label
> on physical entities. If I were a printer/photocopier company I'd be
> wondering how to attach these little label thingies to dead tree output
> at source... Right now my printouts often have semi-useful
> "http://etc" captions in the top right. Much nicer to have a magic label
> that keys it into a my database of things I know I've printed, so I could set
> about useful tasks like finding the most recent copy of the XLink spec
> I've got lying around... (rather than re-printing it for the nth time)
>
> Getting a bit idealistic maybe... If anyone finds somewhere to buy the
> basic hardware from, do let us know.
>
> --danbri
>
> On Thu, 4 May 2000, jeremie kass wrote:
>
> > check out http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.02/mustread.html?pg=4
> > These folks (http://www.thax.de/english) are doing it with little RFID
> > tags.
> >
> > A German software firm has come up with a paradoxically high tech
> > solution to the decidedly low tech problem of organizing all that
> > solution to the decidedly low tech problem of organizing all that
> > paper. Findentity, a system produced by Berlin-based Thax Software
> > (www.thax.de/english/), lets office workers track and locate any
> > letter, file, or photo in the office. It works like this: Every piece of
> > paper to be tracked is "marked" with a transponder, a
> > postage-stamp-sized sticker embedded with a chip that can store and
> > send a 32-bit identification number. Users then install a local
> > positioning net, a series of antennas strategically placed in doorways
> > and underneath desks. When a file goes AWOL, the antennas home in
> > on the missing document's transponder. The signal bounces back to a
> > PC, where the software calls up a map of the office and points to the
> > file with a flashing arrow. An optional ceiling-mounted laser beam
> > can even spotlight the missing file. Businesses with multiple branch
> > can track files by using Findentity in conjunction with the Net.
> >
> > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Dan Brickley wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Resisting the urge to witter on about how I thought this up 5 years ago
> > > but fell asleep reading barcode specs and got distracted, this reminds
> > > me of another someday gadget that I'm determined not to forget (because
> > > I really need it to exist!):
> > >
> > > Long story short. I want a way not only of uniquely IDing all the junk
> > > (papers, books, CDs, videos etc) lying around home and office, but of
> > > finding the damn things when I want them. That means putting them down
> > > anywhere, then asking my local Web where I left them. I know how to do
> > > the metadata part, that's the easy bit. But the hardware side of it I've
> > > not done a tech review on. I want there to exist something cheap and
> > > unencumbered by silly US patents which allows a networked device to
> > > locate nearby objects given their identifier.
> > >
> > > eg: Q: "where did I put that book I borrowed from Martin last year"
> > > A: ??? (coordinates I guess; or geiger-counter style gadget
> > > that beeped more frequently as I approach its location... whatever)
> > >
> > > So I'm after something with cheap, unubtrusive little labels (like
> > > shops/libraries use to stop you stealing stuff) that are uniquely IDs
> > > and whose exact location can be detected by some cheap, unobtrusive
> > > little box I can hook into a PC. It'd need to be suitable for attaching
> > > little ID/labels to all the printouts, photocopies etc I've lying
> > > around, in filing cabinets etc.
> > >
> > > Someone please tell me this is feasible...
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jim Whitehead wrote:
> > >
> > > > One of the major impacts this technology could have is allowing every single
> > > > item to have its own barcoded URL. In fact, I think it would be neat if
> > > > every single item we bought, over a certain size, had a URL that pointed to:
> > > >
> > > > * a desrciption of what the object does
> > > > * specifications of the object
> > > > * any consumer recalls of the object
> > > > * safety information on the object
> > > > * how to repair the object (or how to locate someone who will repair it)
> > > > * how to recycle the object
> > > > * how to safely dispose of the object
> > > > * description of how to locate a secondary market where the item could be
> > > > sold
> > > >
> > > > In fact, I would be in favor of legislation that made providing and
> > > > maintaining this information mandatory for every object over $5 (or some
> > > > other very small number).
> > > >
> > > > - Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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