Re: Butler's Components-Are-Bunk ICSE Keynote

Stephen Wynne (
Sat, 22 May 1999 13:50:15 -0400

I like this kind of Khare post, but I had to dig a bit to understand
what it was about. Knowing these are likely old bits, I hope the links
below may help someone else on the list who may have been wondering,


What is ISCE and who was that Keynote Guy? (Sorry, and yes, I didn't know.)

What was the 1968 NATO-Garmisch discussion about?
"Is it engineering yet?" (Unattributed; in collection edited by
Patrick S. Regan)

In the fall of 1968, NATO convened a meeting to confront a crisis
that didn't make the headlines; "the software crisis." Experts
from a dozen countries, representing industrial labs as well as
universities, met in Garmisch, Germany, to grapple with two basic
questions that are still with us: Why is it so hard to produce
functionally correct and reliable software that meets users' needs
and performance requirements and comes in on time and within a
projected budget?

Some Random OO/Component Bibliography
"OO == Reuse: Where's the Evidence?" By Anthony Alexander

The Object-Oriented (OO) paradigm has been sold as facilitating
higher levels of reuse. The essay discusses this claim by
comparing the success of the introduction of reuse into industry
under traditional software development paradigms to the
object-oriented paradigm. It will be shown that, even though the
concept of reuse has been around for nearly 30 years, it has not
delivered its promises.

Who is Kevin Sullivan, mentioned in Rohit's post:
Kevin J. Sullivan's resources on software engineering

Oscar Wilde Quote on Peyman Oreizy's web page

"I have found that all ugly things are made by those who strive
to make something beautiful, and that all beautiful things are
made by those who strive to make something useful.", Oscar Wilde
(1854-1900), Anglo-Irish playwright, author. The Value of Art in
Modern Life (1884).