Excuse me, Missy, but you are the one who brought up the idea of
contrasting different ways to die. I simply said that Mr Driver did it
the right way. Sure, he could have avoided dying, but where were you when
he got in the car all those times? Why didn't you stop this craziness?
(: If you'll read my email preceding this one, I think you'll maybe
understand that, yes, INDEED, I know -just- what one of the people who has
died of cancer thought. And, since you seem to want to maintain the
position of being in the know, let me slap you in the face again. I,
personally, at the age of 25, made a personal choice about how I would
die. I will NOT die slowly, in terrible pain. I have made provisions to
get the hell out of here as soon as it becomes too much for me to deal
with. I don't think this qualifies as a 'false choice,' as it is MY
choice, and I have made it, and it has nothing to do with YOU or your
judgements about what is true or false. Anyhow, I believe you are the
stupid one, because you seem to have misinterpretted what I said to mean
that there is any way that anyone SHOULD die. Please read what I said
again so that you can see the error of your ways. I could be wrong if I
said "I'm sure that this is the way he wanted to die," but that isn't
what I said, even though that IS what I think. You're on some kind of
horse that's outta control. Death is part of life, and if we can get out
of it with some sort of dignity, then it aint so damned bad.
C
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Lisa Dusseault wrote:
> Is the problem here that you're insensitive or just stupid?
>
> You cloud the issue by contrasting fast, painless death to slow lingering
> death -- without acknowledging that avoiding risk of sudden death may lead
> to many more years of life. I'd point out that the large number of people
> who choose to die slowly of cancer rather than just putting a pistol in
> their mouth belies your claim that you "know" how people who die of cancer
> think.
>
> Your statement that it's better to die quickly is a false choice. Unless
> you're paralyzed from the neck down, it's almost always possible to die
> quickly, no matter what chronic disease you have.
>
> But that isn't even the issue. Rather, the issue is that you seem to think
> that it's appropriate for you to say what the right way for people to die
> is--and your implied condemnation of those who make other choices with their
> lives.
>
> You choose how you want to die and I won't criticize that. Just refrain
> from making broad value judgements on how other people should die.
>
> Lisa
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdale@silly.techmonkeys.net [mailto:cdale@silly.techmonkeys.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:21 AM
> > To: Lisa Dusseault
> > Cc: FoRK@xent.com
> > Subject: RE: in shock
> >
> >
> > Oh lord. The 49 year old man got INTO the damned car and drove it REALLY
> > FAST. He didn't neeed my approval to do this. If you think that it's a
> > slap in the face to say that it's better to die quickly than to die slowly
> > of cancer, maybe you should talk to someone who is dying of cancer. I've
> > lost a few people to cancer, and I know damned well what their answers
> > would have been. So, flip it around any way you like, and I'll still
> > stick to what I said, and the way I said it. If you choose to take it as
> > a slap in the face, fine. Consider yourself slapped.
> > C
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Lisa Dusseault wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, right. The man was 49 years old. I doubt that most
> > people would be
> > > willing to sacrifice twenty years of their life to die in your approved
> > > fashion.
> > >
> > > What you've just said is, everybody who died of breast cancer, prostate
> > > cancer or leukemia, died the WRONG WAY. There's no right way to
> > die and for
> > > you to suggest otherwise is a slap in the face to anyone who's
> > lost someone
> > > they loved to cancer.
> > >
> > > lisa
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cdale@silly.techmonkeys.net [mailto:cdale@silly.techmonkeys.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 4:34 PM
> > > To: Grlygrl201@aol.com
> > > Cc: FoRK@xent.com
> > > Subject: Re: in shock
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, he did it right. What better way for him to die than in
> > the biggest
> > > race, final turn of the final lap? Much better than to cancer or
> > > something.
> > > hats off,
> > > C
> > >
> > > On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 Grlygrl201@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > over the loss of the Intimidator, #3, Dale Earnhardt, Sr.,
> > today, during
> > > the
> > > > last lap of the Daytona 500.
> > > >
> > > > i can't believe it. the accident didn't look that bad.
> > > >
> > > > g
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Think wrongly, if you please, but in all cases, think for
> > > yourself." --Doris Lessing,
> > > British writer
> > >
> >
> > --
> > "Think wrongly, if you please, but in all cases, think for
> > yourself." --Doris Lessing,
> > British writer
>
-- "Think wrongly, if you please, but in all cases, think for yourself." --Doris Lessing, British writer
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