Re: Organizine shuts down one week after its launch

From: Rahul Dave (rahul@reno.cis.upenn.edu)
Date: Thu Jan 11 2001 - 11:18:13 PST


I got this from you:
>
> All the editing activity can be moved onto the desktop computer, without
> sacrificing ease of use. That's the key to making this stuff work, which
> despite protests to the contrary, is quite real. Also achieves another
> important goal -- give the user control of his or her data. Right now it's
> all locked up and inaccessibe on the servers. This is not a long-term
> workable situation. Dave

Agreed entirely. Infact this way the user could even work offline on his
or her laptop at various places. The upstreaming could be used as a backup too.
Add name adressing which is portable and you have maximum flexibility.
Rahul
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rahul Dave" <rahul@reno.cis.upenn.edu>
> To: "Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>
> Cc: "Adam Rifkin" <adam@KnowNow.com>; <FoRK@XeNT.CoM>;
> <bryan@bryanboyer.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Organizine shuts down one week after its launch
>
>
> > Perhaps the correct model, atleast for broadband connected people, is to
> > have each person host their own web application, for a software charge or
> > for free depending upon your preference and on what underlying software
> you
> > use, and charge for upstreaming or 'caching' at 24/7 servers...
> >
> > This way you dont have to maintain, and when you do, you charge.
> >
> > As far as the personal web server(by which I mean also the means to edit,
> like
> > RU for example) is concerned, I liked Netscape's original model: free for
> > non-commercial, non-free for commercial, but shrinkwraps available even
> for
> > noncommercials with value adds..
> >
> > Shrinkwrap is expensive though. In Humane interface Jef Raskin talks about
> > the basic data and methods being sold at a reasonable upfront price (or
> > perhaps even free), with bundles of additional methods being paid for as
> needed.
> > Rahul
> > I got this from you:
> > >
> > > Adam, all good points. This is why it's time to talk about decentralized
> > > models for using the Internet because the centralized model ran out of
> > > benefactors sometime around March last year. If you don't run a free
> public
> > > server sorry you just don't know what the issues are. But this is going
> to
> > > come home for users, eventually the free services are going away. Dave
> > >
> >
>



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