[FoRK] SOAP vs REST

silky <michaelslists at gmail.com> on Thu Apr 10 17:12:57 PDT 2008

sometimes i think SDW is a bot designed to combine acronyms in a
fashion that sounds smart but also remains confusing and impenetrable
for those humans who are not familiar with them.

anyway, for mine i prefer basic interfaces [rest]. screw xml.



On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
> Sometimes I'm glad I stay clear of areas that make me queasy.  I only saw
> enough CORBA action to know that it was broken.  I did a bit too much DCE
> RPC programming in SunOS so that when Microsoft pulled it in several years
> later, I completely ignored their derivative.  I did my own port of Kerberos
> to HPUX 3 or 4 in about 1990 so I avoided Active Directory later.  OK, bad
> example, I've just been setting up and debugging Kerberized PKI SSH...
>
>  I feel vaguely guilty at not participating in this stuff because I would
> have howled at many of the design decisions, especially the pre-doc RPC
> style.  And concentrating on half-duplex, synchronous HTTP rather than on
> something like BEEP.  (HTTP 1.1 could be used inefficiently to implement
> something close to BEEP, and some use it that way, but it is not the default
> SOAP mode which is a great loss.)  I was busy doing other things, and I
> probably wouldn't have been able to route the Microsoft / IBM juggernaut
> that seems to have done an Ada on the whole thing.  (I.e. taken some good,
> but immature ideas and too-quickly inflated them into products with unearned
> mass.)
>
>  Part of my focus now is a completely different direction with RDF-derived
> data interchange.  XML is OK at low complexities, but a mess further down
> the spectrum.  Clean XML object/document paired with RDF/triples/n-tuples
> seems to make sense.  But first, I'm working on a personal utility and
> building my way up.
>
>  More than a year ago we designed and built an XML RDF over BEEP over
> XML-RPC between Java and C# which worked nicely, if slowly.
>
>  sdw
>
>
>
>  Paul Jimenez wrote:
>
> >
> http://wanderingbarque.com/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/the-s-stands-for-simple/
> >
> > Dug this up somewhere and found it still appropriate as I watch the
> > dev team I joined recently deal with having to evolve and support the
> > SOAP/XML-RPC API that they used in the intreest of expediency in the
> > early days. I winced when I saw it first, but lately have grown somewhat
> > tired of trying to convince philistines of the errors of their ways - it
> > tires me out and annoys the philistines.
> >
> >  --pj
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