[FoRK] At the risk of inflaming JB and others ...
James Tauber
<jtauber at jtauber.com> on
Sat Mar 29 11:20:05 PDT 2008
The entire section attributed to me below is a direct quote from the
article I referenced. You asked for support that Hitchens was a
neocon, I said he probably wasn't in name but that he agreed with them
on foreign policy. You still expressed doubt. I quoted an article
where he expresses his agreement both on Bosnia and responses to 9/11.
Are you arguing with Hitchens, the article or me?
James
On Mar 29, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Jeff Bone wrote:
>
> On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:18 AM, James Tauber wrote:
>
>> There are two strands of conservatism on the US right that Hitch
>> has always opposed. The first was the Barry Goldwater-Pat Buchanan
>> isolationist right. They argued for "America First" - disengagement
>> from the world, and the abandonment of Europe to fascism. The
>> second was the Henry Kissinger right, which argued for the
>> installation of pro-American, pro-business regimes, even if it
>> meant liquidating democracies (as in Chile or Iran) and supporting
>> and equipping practitioners of genocide.
>>
>> He believes neoconservatism is a distinctively new strain of
>> thought, preached by ex-leftists, who believed in using US power to
>> spread democracy. "It's explicitly anti-Kissingerian. Kissinger
>> hates this stuff. He opposed intervening in the Balkans. Kissinger
>> Associates were dead against [the war in] Iraq. He can't understand
>> the idea of backing democracy - it's totally alien to him."
>
> Don't believe for a second that the actual goal of the neo-cons is
> the propagation of democracy and capitalism, and claiming to support
> democracy has better public relations value and thus serves their
> political needs. Means, not end. They only advocate that on the
> surface because in practice so-called democracies are, in many ways,
> easier to subvert and control than autocracies. It was Kissinger
> that acted out of character in failing to support Iraq; at the end
> of the day, in many ways the neo-cons could be described as "more
> Kissinger than Kissinger" in wanting to install pro-American and pro-
> business puppet regimes.
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