[FoRK] More iPhone analysis

[Stephen D. Williams]

Tom Higgins wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Tom Higgins <tomhiggins at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Lucas Gonze <lucas.gonze at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >  Which brings me to the issue of people eagerly taking crap from Apple
>>  >  that they wouldn't take from other companies.
>>  >
>>
>>  Seems I heard this some where...now where was that....hmmmmmmm.
>>
>>  I mean lets tick it off here.....one background app..heck even
>>     
>
> postus interuptous..
>
> Even palm OS can do one background app with a foreground going,...the
> only ones I have seen do this to any extent are mp3 players.
>   
Treo's have, I think I read, two processors, one for the real time phone 
work and the Palm CPU.  The Palm OS has interrupts and some way of 
hooking into the interrupt change to allow switching between apps.  The 
apps don't die, although the library-based networking stack may timeout 
a TCP connection.  In fact, it is unclear how to stop an app.  Some seem 
to unload when switched away from, but others seem to run, err be ready 
to run, until the next out of memory crash/reboot.

I don't believe that you can hook on a networking packet received, but 
you can on incoming SMS and various state changes like call end, which 
one of the better IM applications+services uses to reconnect to the 
persistent server to see if you missed any updates or messages.  This 
kind of fits with the CDMA-2000 networks (Sprint/Verizon) since you can 
only do signaling (including SMS) while connected on a voice call.  As 
far as I can tell, there is no reason outside of the handset that you 
couldn't have a voice channel along with a data channel going at the 
same time, when you have the signal strength and bandwidth.
> 3rd party apps? Yea so even Palm OS has that.
>
> So Apples got the uber  marketing of the sheeple crowd, historically
> the mass lumpen..or as Jean Shepherd calls em ...the Slob.  Cool.
> Meanwhile for those who are actually interested in thinking
> different...the frontier has long since moved on. Surprises me forkers
>   
Sheesh...  Can we start saying "think differently" yet??  This constant 
cringing is annoying.
Did they not have a real writer when they did that campaign??
> have not.
>
> Now, lets all sit back and see which sheep look up:)-   (I love it
> when I can drop a Brunner reference)
>
> -tom(if the shoe fits)higgin
sdw

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