[FoRK] 16 year old girl "Peace and Love"d to Death over Hijab

[owen at permafrost.net]

I think, for starters, that we should assign all blame for murders not linked to a specific religion, to atheism. That makes total sense.
Owen

-----Original Message-----
From: Sat N <sateesh.narahari at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:39pm
To: Friends of Rohit Khare <fork at xent.com>
Subject: Re: [FoRK] 16 year old girl "Peace and Love"d to Death over Hijab

Ok, its all the fault of the religion. So, what do we do? Release the
father from prison and not prosecute under the "religion is evil"
defense and go after Mohammad, Jesus, Mecca, Vatican, Varanasi ?.


On Dec 16, 2007 9:13 AM, Tom Higgins <tomhiggins at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2007 7:03 AM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
> <drernie at radicalcentrism.org> wrote:
> > Tut, tut, Aaron.
> ..
> > Yeah, that's the real tragedy.  I fear we both (religious and secular
> > alike) are so busy blaming each other for the problems of the world we
> > don't have any time left to solve them...
>
> You got a dead girl on your hands and your still looking to make
> excuses for things like killing in the name of gods fashion edicts?
> Fucking amazing. Rather than looking at the uncomfortable facts that
> religion makes a fertile ground for institutionalized violence  you
> want to spread the blame thin enough to make the problem seem to go
> away from your pet behavioral foible. Again, fucking amazing.
>
> And to put forth that the real problem here is that some folks are
> pointing out these completely and utterly indefensible behaviors  done
> int he name of religions or religious practices ...to put that forth
> as the real problem here is not only disingenuous it shames the very
> idea that we are all brothers and sister under the bad ideologies and
> failed behavioral regimes.
>
> Shame is good word to ponder today. Shame that while there is one dead
> girl, battered and broken over what appears to be the strict beliefs
> of her family to a religion of peace and love, there remains the
> institutions, justifications and practitioners who will sadly deliver
> to our attention a never ending stream of dead girls, boy, men and
> women.
>
> How many more must die because of clothing issues? How many more rape
> victims will be lashed becuase their god's law demands it? How many
> more young women walking into an abortion clinic will be looking about
> for another pipe bomb put there in the name of Jesus? How many
> clerics, presidents and leaders will sit back drawing up the plans of
> war and death because their god whispered words of encouragement into
> their ears?
>
> Of course some would rather prattle on excuses, justification and
> linguist divergences rather than look into the inconvenient truth of
> their behavior's ripplings.
>
> -tom(no comment)higgins.
>
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