[FoRK] Re: Please Help

[Lion Kimbro]

On Dec 4, 2007 6:16 PM, Jeff Bone <jbone at place.org> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Lion Kimbro wrote:
> >   It *DOES* matter.
> >   I think you just **fear** it, and want to make it all go away.
> >   Wishful thinking.
>
> I was just waiting for you to pull THAT one out of your ass.  Right,
> I'm not buying your line of bullshit because I *FEAR* it.

  You're putting words in my mouth --

  I said, "I think you just fear (subjective reality.)"
  That's why you want religion **gone;**
  You're just terrified about what imagination will do to people.

  Carl Jung rightly said (can't find it -- something to the effect of):
  "All wars are the product of psychic events."

  What he meant was:  All the global drama around us comes
  from our subjective life in the heads.

  It seems to me that your approach to solve these problems
  is to simply negate the subjective life, the life in the head.

  This seems naive to me.

  Carl Jung said, "No psychic value can disappear without being
  replaced by another of equivalent intensity."  I think I can see
  what he's saying.

  This is how we get things like sdw or Eli walking around,
  adamantly certain that a singularity is coming, and we will
  train it to be "rational," and thus ensure that things will be all
  right.  (That is, rationality elevated to a God.  Hell, even
  **building** a God, intended to rule over people.)

  It seems more rational to me to connect with our own,
  subjective lives, rather than trying to suppress it, and
  seeing it pop up (horribly deluded) somewhere else.


  Which is worse:

  (A) believing that we are part of the universe,
       and consciously celebrating it with others?

  (B) Or believing that we're rational?

  I'll take the first.


  Corrina was right -- I grossly overestimated the risk of
  being here.  You ain't seen nothing yet.  {;)}=