[FoRK] Re: Please Help

Lion Kimbro <lionkimbro at gmail.com> on Tue Dec 4 14:15:40 PST 2007

On Dec 4, 2007 1:54 PM, Devon Jones <soulcatcher at evilsoft.org> wrote:
> The real harm is in grouping the people up and telling them all to march
> in one direction.

  The "one direction" of evolutionary spirituality is
  "in accords with science."

  I think that FoRK would bless this.  {;)}=


  Point #4 of Michael Dowd's articulation of evolutionary
  spirituality (which he calls "The Great Story,") is:

     The Great Story is radically open
     to multiple interpretations.

     http://thegreatstory.org/what_is.html

  Not just "open," -- **radically** open.

  The vision I always have, is of Hinduism.

  In India, my understanding is, (And perhaps someone
  here can attest to this,) you have a bajillion jillion
  groups of people who focus on different parts of the
  story of Hinduism.

  I don't really understand how they all fit together, or
  if they even do, but they at least *seem* to.

  Pagans seem to manage similarly, as well.

  The unifying element of evolutionary spirituality,
  however, is not a culture, but rather, **science.**


  Individual ceremonies for "being in love" will
  vary from place to place, region to region.  What is
  socially accepted, what the back story is, and so
  on, will be different, in the future, from place to place
  -- as it is now.


  Evolutionary spirituality isn't so much a religion,
  as it is a movement in thought, comparable to
  like, "the Enlightenment," or say,
  "the Renaissance."

  We're not going to all wake up one day, and start
  going to Evolutionary Spirituality church, or anything
  like that.

  If there's an "Evolutionary Spirituality church," it's probably
  just an existing church (pick any Christian church,) where
  the pastor, or whoever is in charge of it, has decided to
  go "all the way" with science, rather than just picking up
  the parts which jibe with his prior beliefs.  So he explains
  God in terms of "all of Reality," and teaches that "original
  sin" is our proclivities to selfishness that have come
  through evolution, and so on.  Said preacher does not say
  that other people go to Hell, and probably speculates that
  Heaven as traditionally taught does not exist.


  If we're looking for a "pope" of Evolutionary Spirituality,
  I guess we would have to start talking about however
  science works, and what it means for science to make
  "a discovery."

  (Which, ... ...is a very interesting discussion.
   It's just a different one.)

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