Yahoo! News Story - Jailed Iraqi children run free as marines
roll into Baghdad suburbs
Joseph S Barrera III
joe at barrera.org
Tue Apr 8 21:14:29 PDT 2003
Tom ranted as follows:
> What I am saying that what is going on over there is a crime to humanity
> but in large or small part this goverment we call the US has had its part
> in making it that way and more to the point while we are no where near
> the overt brutaliity that goes on every day there we are well on our way
> to getting thier ina generation or two.
Yes. But is it better to be consistent, or to try to fix our mess?
I pick the latter.
> The US gov has been in thick with the hows and whys of many goverments in
> the world, Iraq is just one of them. We have bolstered, ousted, sanctioned
> and funded the situation in that for decades. Back in the 70's there
> was the outcry of Iranian Americans to wake us up to the crule rules of
See above.
> the Shah, they fellas we put in charge there. I remeber as a kid seeing
> people with posters and mock ups of torture devies the Shah used on the
> people. One image I will never forget is of a fella wrapped up with
> aluminum foil pretednding to be electrocuted while his wife cried as
> she handed out pamphletes. America was supporting this shit and hey were
> trying to tell us. Did we heed it? Nope. The situation got so bad the
> country boiled over, kicked out the shah and then grabbed americans as
> hostages .
Yes. We fucked up. Except of course there WAS a war going on,
the Cold War, and now that it's over we don't have to do the
sort of shit we did during the cold war.
> We funded Hussan and now we have spent over 10 years fighting, doing no
> fly zones and sanctions to clean up the mess. We are in the diplomatic
> crapper. Once we secure the place we are going to be spending years either
> helping the human wreckage we have either strewn or that was strewn in
That is the plan. It's our duty as citizens to make sure we stick
to that plan.
> Meanwhile back at the ranch we will be newspeaking the population down
> with Patriot Acts, putting the fear of GOD back in the schools and in the
No argument here
> hearts of the children, watch as our workforce has less and less jobs to
I don't know if you can really blame the current bust on Bush.
We had a hell of a bubble and it's going to take a while to
ride out the burst.
> keep them busy and thus given them ample time to take up other hobies,
> like say the hobbies the folks in the Republic of the Congo have ("them
> smarty pants peacenicks, they need to be taught a lesson" "hey look, is
> that a towel head?" "looke there jimbob, that must be one of them
> hOmosexuals, lets see if he bleeds pink")
So you expect that we'll have an increase in hate crimes?
I don't see it.
> Please open your scope. I am not equating the nows, I am sizing up the
> eventualities of our actions.
My scope already is expanded, really honestly.
> Get it now? If not, fuck off, I dont have time for the selfcastrated.
I woke up this morning with a bad hangover and my penis was
missing again. This happens all the time. It's detachable.
- Joe
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