From: Antoun Nabhan (antoun@arrayex.com)
Date: Thu Sep 28 2000 - 17:53:08 PDT
At 06:06 PM 9/27/00 -0700, Jim Whitehead wrote:
> > Anybody here *actually* think cloning (not for use as parts, just as an
> > alternative reproductive mechanism) is a bad idea?
>
>Well, with so many people on this planet unable to real their full potential
>due to lack of access to resources, it seems like a bad idea to start
>blowing $100-$200k per cloned baby.  These resources seem like they would be
>better spent on, say, educating the people already alive.
Something occurs to me, which is that this may be a more efficient and 
compassionate way of having multiple children when the parents both carry a 
particularly dangerous, but foetally non-fatal, dominant gene. (e.g., 
Huntington's chorea, which typically doesn't manifest until well into your 
adult years, if memory serves.) Then odds are 75/25 against the baby being 
healthy. If you have one healthy foetus, luck was on your side - but you 
don't know you'll be so lucky with your second child. So, if you still want 
a second/third/fourth child, cloning might make sense.
As for reproducing clones for spare parts as so many science fiction 
authors have predicted, it seems awfully inefficient, like ordering a whole 
cow when you only wanted a steak. There's a lot of biomass that you're not 
likely to need replaced. Easier to just grow what you need on an 
organ-by-organ basis. See, e.g., Anastasia Toufexis, "Science: An Early 
Tale: A Bizarre Creature Shows A New Way To Replace Organs", Time, 
11/06/1995, p. 60. The semi-famous picture is available at 
<http://www.weirdpics.com/pastpics/pastpics97/mouse.html> Of course those 
are from early cloning experiments that generated their own ethics-based 
backlash because of the use of foetal stem cells, but there's evidence you 
can get the same results without killing embryos, or anything else: 
<http://www.catholicdoctors.org.uk/Submissions/cloning_expert_committee.htm>
If you do need a whole body full of spare parts at once, it's because so 
much of your body is deteriorated/traumatized/diseased that nothing is 
really salvageable, except your brain. Your brain is so dependent 
on/integrated with your other organs that this doesn't seem likely. Now, if 
your brain could be downloaded...
Dammit, who stole my brain?! I left the Zip disk right here on my desk, and 
it seems to have walked away!
--A.
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