Re: What is Open Source?

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From: Dave Winer (
Date: Tue Sep 19 2000 - 16:26:58 PDT

Yeah, it's hard to have a conversation on this list. So many tangents. What
was the question that I have not answered? Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles S. Kerr" <>
To: "Dave Winer" <>
Cc: "Charles S. Kerr" <>;
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: What is Open Source?

> >>> I think terminology is as important as license agreements. I am not a
> >>> "closed-source developer", a term that I consider perjorative and
> >>> negative.
> >> "closed-source" isn't pejoriative or negative; it's a fact. My day
> >> is closed source too. They're not mutually exclusive states. <shrug>
> >> Anyway there was no offense meant so for the purposes of my original
> >> letter just replace it with "someone who hadn't been closely watching
> >> the free software developments on Unix in the pre-Linux 90's". :)
> > Oy. If only you knew.
> > We ship a lot of source in our "closed source" product.
> > Wouldn't it be nice if people avoided putting labels on each other?
> > A good way to avoid misunderstandings.
> That's two (or three, if you count a mention on your DG) responses you've
> made now, all of which are completely orthogonal to my original letter.
> Instead you've focused on the single phrase "closed source developer".
> You've said that the "roadblocks are gone, and that developers can now
> work together without the nasty bullshit getting in the way", but I'm
> trouble even having a conversation with you. :)
> cheers,
> Charles
> PS. What roadblocks?

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