[InfoWorld] DCDs may not supplant DTDs after all.

I Find Karma (adam@cs.caltech.edu)
Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:25:23 -0700


So I guess the CNET article last week

http://xent.ics.uci.edu/FoRK-archive/august98/0242.html

was too speculative when it said that DCDs were intended to supersede
DTDs. We have a great quote from Tim Bray in InfoWorld

http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?980818.wixmldcd.htm

that "given the velocity and turmoil of events in this particular
industry and standards arena, anyone who ventured a strong answer either
way [whether DCDs will supplant DTDs] would have rocks in their head." :)

And yet, according to Microsoft, "DCDs will be necessary for any
developers looking to build three-tier Web applications using XML."
I guess we'll have to see how this plays out.

> Microsoft, IBM submit W3C proposal for XML data structure
> By Jeff Walsh, InfoWorld Electric
> Posted at 11:17 AM PT, Aug 18, 1998
>
> Microsoft and IBM recently submitted a proposal to the World Wide Web
> Consortium (W3C) for describing the structure and content of Extensible
> Markup Language (XML) data.
>
> The submission of Document Content Descriptions (DCDs) was acknowledged
> by the W3C, which will next form a working group to flesh out the
> protocol.
>
> DCDs provide similar functionality to Document Type Definitions (DTDs),
> which the XML world initially inherited from SGML, or Standard
> Generalized Markup Language. But DCDs extend further by supporting other
> XML-friendly standards such as Resource Description Framework (RDF),
> XML-Data and XML Namespaces.
>
> DCDs are also written in an XML syntax, unlike DTDs. This enables both a
> common markup language for both the DCD and the XML schema it
> represents, but also the same parser can be used for both the DCD and
> the XML data.
>
> According to Microsoft, DCDs will be necessary for any developers
> looking to build three-tier Web applications using XML.
>
> "There are some things you'll need that a DCD provides that a DTD does
> not," said David Wascha, product manager for platform marketing at
> Microsoft.
>
> Wascha noted that DCDs have support for database and programming-style
> prototypes. For example, in a DCD, a number can be designated an integer
> ('int' in programming talk) in the schema, which is not possible in a
> DTD.
>
> "You can call something an int and then send it to an equation, whereas
> DTDs allow you to do very generic description of a document," Wascha
> said.
>
> Neither Microsoft nor DCD co-author Tim Bray would say that DCD would
> supplant DTDs.
>
> "DCD is an alternative to DTD. It depends on what you're going to use it
> for," Wascha said.
>
> Bray, an independent consultant, said DCDs do provide a superset of the
> functions of DTDs, but it is too soon to announce the death of DTDs.
>
> "Given the velocity and turmoil of events in this particular industry
> and standards arena, anyone who ventured a strong answer either way to
> that question would have rocks in their head," Bray said.

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