RE: PEP over TCP, or TCPPEP

Dan Kohn (dan@teledesic.com)
Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:10:49 -0700


You should write up a 3-page informational RFC to go with the
Experimental. I, for one, would love to read about the lessons learned.
It is probably also publishable.

Note, among other things, the capabilities negotiation WG starting up
now.

- dan

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rohit Khare [mailto:rohit@bordeaux.ics.uci.edu]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 3:47 PM
>To: FoRK@xent.ics.uci.edu; http-ext@w3.org
>Subject: PEP over TCP, or TCPPEP
>
>
>
>Aaron Falk wrote in an IETF TCP over Satellite BOF report:
>...
>informal meeting was held with interested folks at the IETF
>to work out some details. There was general agreement that
>spoofing means different things to different people but that
>it is generally a pejorative term. To allow the group to
>focus on the technical issues rather than the emotional
>ones, I am suggesting that what we are talking about are
>proxies that enhance TCP performance. Therefore, I propose
>that we call this activity TCPPEP for, naturally, TCP
>Performance Enhancing Proxies. Eric Travis and I led the
>discussion and Eric will be posting a summary to the tcppep
>list.
>...
>
>Welcome to the crowd, folks -- here's another PEP draft that
>may actually make
>it to experimental RFC status soon:
>
>"PEP - an Extension Mechanism for HTTP"
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-http-pep-05.txt
>
>And yes,one can say there is PEPTCP as much as there is TCPPEP...
>
>ObWG comment: Per the Los Angeles consensus, I agree that
>there is value in
>putting the PEP design into the RFC library as a sign of its
>maturity review,
>and potential citation in future woprk. However, iut is
>clearly not standards
>track anymore, but nor should it go all the way to
>informational; there is a
>case to be made that Eric and Henrik's code and a wide variety
>of other
>"end-user" applications at W3C justify the Experimental
>banner. The main
>result of these experiences is "negotiation is hard -- so
>don't". Rather than
>complex transfer of intent or policy, the new Mandatory-
>scheme just says what
>to do; the PEP RFC should stand as a warning that "here lie dragons".
>
>Rohit Khare
>
>PS. Thanks to Lloyd Wood for pointing out this BOF report.
>